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Pledge “refuse2comply”

"I will refuse to comply with any compulsary ID card scheme. but only if 1,000 other UK people will do the same."

— ken Hall, Free, innocent, law abiding citizen. (contact)

Deadline to sign up by: 31^st December 2008
266 people have signed up, 734 more needed

Country: United Kingdom

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In light of the government's proven incapability to guarantee the security of personal data and the risk to individual liberty, prosperity and freedom and the potential for massive ID Fraud, We should ALL send a strong message to parliament that we are free individuals born into liberty and we are NOT the property of the state. Our personal information belongs firmly to US and not THEM. We shall only volunteer information to them IF and when they can be trusted to look after it, and only that information that WE want to allow them to have. WE OWN OURSELVES AND OUR DATA. Any information we wish to keep private, is NONE OF THEIR DAMN BUSINESS!

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• It mustn't stop there though, the unfettered sharing of our data with the US, the US using our land to spy on the western hemisphere, the very fact that any corporate or personal intelligence is shared throught the USA on us British people and that has to stop too.
  
  It has been proven time and again that this and the last Prime Minister are incapable of refusing the Americans and it is suspicious how this came about, did they lose it? Or was it sold to American or Israeli intelligence interests, the same ones bidding for the ID cards and National Identity Register contracts.
  
  It has to go further than a simple curative, we need to root out the commerical aspect of our data, abolish the data collection agencies and return our details to be our own sovereign and private domain.
  Ian Watson, 12 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
• America needs a pledge like this as well.
  Danny A. Brown Jr., 12 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Yes America does need something like this as well, British and American ID cards and databases are fuelled by a decree by Bush early in his first term that the US should have a file on every person on the planet.
  
  I have nothing against our American cousins who are suffering a lot more and have reason to fear ID card systems a whole lot more thanks to an ever increasingly brutal police state but I'll be damned before I sign my details over to a government that freely trades my information with nations and companies that can and will misuse it.
  
  Experian and Equifax should also be banned from operating in the UK as they are as criminally bad in selling our information.
  Ian Watson, 12 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I am heartily fed up with the "Nanny State" in the UK.
  Dr Sami Chidiac, 10 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I don't want to stand idly by while the country sleepwalks towards a police state. The combination of imbecilic incompetence in Government departments with an inflexible and unforgiving computer system is a nightmare scenario. If you want some examples of what can go wrong, look at these:
  
  http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Afric...
  
  http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&...
  
  http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Afric...
  
  These examples happen to come from South Africa, but similar things have occurred elsewhere. Let's not allow them to happen here!
  Immo Huneke, 10 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
• From what I understand, it is the USA arms company Lockheed Martin who will be undertaking this census!
  
  What in heavens name is an American arms trader wanting with all our personal details?
  
  No way! We live in Britain, and pledge our alliegence to the Queen, NOT to George Bush or any other USA president!
  Zoompad, 9 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
• CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL!!!!
  Liz, 9 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I am pleased to see that more and more people are signing up to this pledge, but there could be so many more. My own professional organisation, the British Computer Society, pointed out many of the pitfalls in the Identity Register scheme as long ago as 2002, resulting in a "scaling down" of the proposal (see response to the "Next Steps" paper, 2004 - http://www.bcs.org/server.php?show=conWe...). Yet even then there were lots of hidden costs and dangers, which the BCS was not slow to point out. It seems these warnings have been all but ignored.
  Immo Huneke, 9 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
• This government has proven time and time again they are incapable of looking after the personal information they have about us. Why then should I expect this new set of personal data to be any more secure?
  
  Personal information is just that. Personal. NOT the public property of the state in which I live. If we accept this new affront to our liberties, yet another measure imposed under the banner of "preventing terrorism", then the terrorists have already won.
  
  People of Britain, grow some balls, and stand up to this now.
  Jon Pitans, 8 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
• George Orwell and 1984 is not fantasy, They are just running late. Dont we elect politician to do what we want them to do for us but it seems that our worthless piggy politicans seem to think it's the other way round it is clear that said worthless politicians have lost the plot. Which part of NO ID CARDS dont they understand, politicians are there to do what WE tell them to do not the other way round
  Joginder singh foley, 8 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Stick your ID cards where the sun don't shine.
  Paul Pengelly, 7 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Is anyone surprised about the BBC not telling the full story about this?
  
  This country is fast turning into a police state. What with the government actually using paedophiles (yes, that's right, PAEDOPHILES! and the BBC know all about that one as well) in government consultation papers on child protection issues, you have to wonder what the bleeding hell is going on!
  
  NO ID cards! NO! NO! NO!
  Zoompad, 7 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Anyone wishing to preserve a shred of British 'freedoms' shld be very wary of this scheme. Can we trust this Gov't? Recommended viewing: 'Taking Liberties', a film on the loss of our rights & freedoms in the last 10 years.
  Chris McCabe, 7 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
• If Gordon Brown has any sense he will drop this illiberal, impractical, expensive proposal. As a JP I would be jeopardising my status by refusing to comply with a compulsory ID scheme, but I hope and expect I will have the courage of my convictions to do so.
  Helen, 5 weeks ago. Abusive? Report it!
• And here's another perceptive article on the hidden costs of the national ID scheme: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main....
  Immo Huneke, 5 weeks ago. Abusive? Report it!
• As I've told the BBC several times, here in the Isle of Man our local radio station has had non-religious contributors to their Thought For The Day spot for several years. In fact, I'm back there next month again for Amnesty International on Human Rights Day.
  A place not exactly known for liberalism and a national station run on a shoestring manages this without a murmur. No-one has rioted in the street or burnt their neighbours at the stake.
  What is the BBC's problem?
  Stuart Hartill, 2 weeks ago. Abusive? Report it!

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